00:00:03,830	At 7:00 and we’re going to open the August 18th, 2026 Planning Board meeting. The, uh, everybody here should know we’re gonna follow the Munson Rules of conduct, and we are being filmed on impact. So our first item on our agenda is 168 Wales Road.

00:00:30,630	I will read the notice in accordance with chapter 40, a mass journal on section 11. The Munson Planning Board will hold a public hearing Tuesday, August 18th, 2026 at 7 p.m. at the Munson Town Hall, 110 Main Street, Munson, mass. 01057.

00:00:49,530	On the application of Randy de Metropolis or a site plan approval as provided by section 6.7 of the Munson Zoning Bylaws, the applicant seeks to construct a 467.64ft accessory dwelling unit in the home’s existing basement on property located at 168 Wells Road. Map 139 and parcel 015 D, Zoned Rural Residential. A copy of the application is on file with the Planning Board office.

00:01:14,430	It was advertised in the General Register on 30th of July, 2026 and August 6th, 2026. The case number PB 202604. Do we have somebody here for the proponent? I’m ready. Want to tell us about your. Yeah. So I’m going to build a 466. Come up here and talking to the microphone please.

00:01:40,130	So I to build a 467 square foot basement adu either possibly for my elderly mother. If not, it would be for rental. If she doesn’t take it, I’m gonna add a full kitchen and a full bathroom. It’s already a walkout basement. Um, I’d add a basement egress window.

00:02:05,430	Um, I submitted some drop ceiling paperwork to two. Our fire rating. Um, and I do the 48 by 32 egress window, which I believe is well over the 540 square foot square, square inch, uh, ruling the house itself is 2388ft, so I’m well below that two at less than 500. There’s a separate parking there as well.

00:02:29,000	Okay. Um, on our Adu bylaw, one of the things I read through your stuff and thanks for giving us so much information. There’s a lot there. Uh, so ADUs are allowed as a matter of a right and residential and RV zoning. We have we’re having a a site plan meeting today. Um, to address that.

00:02:53,500	One of the things I noticed in here, uh, and one of the things we suggest, uh, is that you need to have adequate septic. Currently, um, contracted with excavation. Plus, I have a 4500 gallon holding tank right now, but my leach field is only size for three bedroom, which is what I have.

00:03:13,800	They’re going to add, um, additional lines in D box for a fourth bedroom, which I’m contracted with them as we speak. We don’t have anything from you don’t have anything from the Board of Health saying. My title five is done by Neil Jackson. Uh, 5th of July. So Ken.

00:03:37,970	We don’t have a design on this and we don’t have anything from the. Board of health saying his newly planned system is adequate. Where do we go on a case like that? So I think in the past, um, you know, I think typically those, um, septic designs would have been provided to the board should they have been already reviewed by the Board of

00:04:02,400	Health. And I know, I think for the past three permits, the planning Board has typically, um, you know, followed what the Board of Health might have provided us guidelines.

00:04:19,400	I think, um, one of the conversations here for the board is whether or not, um, we feel that it meets the, the general nature intent of the Adu bylaw. Um, if you need the Board of Health’s a recommendations which obviously, um, um, Mr.. The metropolis would need to, um get that board of health permit prior to doing anything else.

00:04:42,470	So he would still need the approval of that of the Board of Health. Um, you presumably can, uh, if the board wanted to, um, as as it typically has in, uh, decisions, the language that any other permits can, you know, be satisfied or need to be satisfied prior to the, uh, the usage of this particular unit.

00:05:09,970	So there is that option, um, for that particular aspect, as those types of permits can happen, you know, after the fact, I think it’s a matter of, yeah, just follow up with the Board of Health and Understanding, um, that hopefully that septic permit has been reviewed and will likely, you know, no comments.

00:05:32,800	So if, if in fact, we voted to approve tonight, we could have vote. We could vote conditionally upon approval of the yet to be designed system. That is designed, you know, Jackson said he submitted it to the health department. Okay. Oh, yeah. We haven’t seen anything yet. So somewhere in the mix. Yeah. Uh, conditional upon the Board of Health. Uh, accepting the new design.

00:05:58,400	Correct. The design that was submitted as part of a this particular application. Okay. Mr. chair, if I may. Yes. Uh, 7.4.4 says required site plan contents for site plan review. A registered architect, landscape architect or professional engineer shall prepare all site plans unless the requirement is waived by the planning board.

00:06:25,970	So are you seeking a waiver from this? Um, if I need to do that, yes. On site plan shall be on standard 24 by 36 sheets. And it shall be prepared at a sufficient scale to show location of boundaries, streets, blah blah, blah. Existing and proposed topography.

00:06:55,400	Existing and proposed structures, location of parking and loading location, description of all septic systems, water supplies, storm drainage, proposed landscape features, location, dimension, height of, characteristics of signs and the location of a description of proposed and open space recreation areas. So those are the requirements of a site plan, um, which are going for a site plan approval tonight. Okay. What I submitted was not suffice.

00:07:22,330	Well, I suppose you could seek a waiver and ask the board to grant it. Go that route. Yes. I mean, you’re not increasing. You’re not changing footprint of the home. Yeah. At all. No. Okay. You are changing. You will need to change the septic system.

00:07:44,400	So because you’re not I mean, you could ask the board to waive the requirements of site plan. Approval. Um. We can’t offer that. Up. So I, we would like it in writing. Okay. So I have to ask the. You have to write up basically what you want on a piece of paper. Okay. And then we can go further. Okay. So you have. That. Okay. And then we’ll vote on it.

00:08:10,970	Whether that’s not move forward okay. I can submit that tonight okay. Yeah okay okay. Some people. Yeah. So. Um, do we have the, uh, septic plan? I do not have a written, but I can afford it. So you haven’t submitted it? I was told by my away.

00:08:34,730	I was told by my engineer that he turned it into everything in his town. To the Board of Health, but not the planning board. Probably just the board of Health. Okay, what is it that you need me to write? Uh. It. Just figure out what. I can, Section 7.4.4. Yeah.

00:09:14,830	Yes, I have the I can give him this particular sheet if if you’re acquiring either the numbers. I think if that’s sufficient for the board or if you would like all of that in writing. I would I think if he were to ask for a waiver pertaining to section 7.4.4, site plan approval, uh, then we could look at the waiver and we can talk about it.

00:09:46,630	Just asking for a waiver for that number. 7.4.4. She’s working on because we have any for the AG. Put a date on. Oh, I’m sorry. Thank you. What we have before us is a request for a waiver from the Munson, uh, bylaws, section 7.4.4 for his, uh, basement, 80 for Mr. de Metropolis. Basement. Adu discussion.

00:11:20,170	I don’t see a septic plan, which is a requirement. Is that a requirement? That’s a requirement for the Adu. Yeah, it’s not a requirement for section 7.4.4. Uh, correct. The location and description of all proposed septic systems. That’s not item five and 744. Okay.

00:11:54,100	I mean, it’s pretty simple what you want to do, the building’s existing, and I think the board would certainly take that under consideration. And we would probably consider a waiver, but we don’t have all the information to make a decision on. Okay. And was there any input from any other town boards? Um. I think just in review.

00:12:16,030	No, there was no comment from the Board of Health. There was only a comment from the fire chief which says I have no comments. So anybody else? We don’t have a plan showing parking. We don’t have a plan showing the property. And in general. So what we’re voting on right now is this request for a waiver from 7.4.4. Um.

00:12:46,400	Based on the um, the documents submitted. Right. Based on what we’ve got. So. We need to determine whether we accept this waiver or not. If we don’t accept the waiver, then you’ll need to come up with a plan that has almost the items in 7.4.4 on it. Okay? Okay.

00:13:14,300	So the planning board can waive that. The documents are prepared by a registered architect, bla bla bla bla bla. But we can’t waive the requirements. Okay? We can waive who draws them but we can’t. We don’t have the power to waive what the documents. You know, all of the documents as required. Okay.

00:13:37,530	So I’m not sure that a waiver is anything to be discussed. Well it certainly to be discussed, but I don’t think we can waive the requirements. We can waive who draws them. Okay. But you said there was no parking plan, was there not um, a sketch in the drawings I submitted where there current parking is.

00:13:57,400	Scheels part of the parking. Area? In my drawing, I don’t know if you guys have on YouTube. There does show. Over here. Yeah. Sorry. Over here. You can’t see it very well. Oh, parking area right there. Right here. Well. We don’t have a dimension of the parking area. Or how many cars would be parked there.

00:15:19,770	At all? Okay. So as pertaining to this request for waiver, 7.4.4. 0.8 says property has a parking. spot 100ft away from the private walkout entrance to a new basement. Edu. It does, but it doesn’t show it. Yeah, I mean, it shows a parking area, but it doesn’t actually show. Does it go all of the parking area? So yeah. Yeah.

00:15:55,870	Sally. And so we circulated these plans to the fire Police Board of Health, and we haven’t heard from. Anybody as far as. Yeah, I think as typical intake is it’s submitted to the departments. Okay. And we don’t know when the Board of Health cut your septic plan. The title was done. Um, July 5th. So terrified.

00:16:22,570	It’s been over a month. Yeah. He told me that he submitted it. And I actually had an email copy of it at home, but. Oh, I believe. Yeah. I believe you. Know. So. So what we have before us here is we need to vote on whether we accept this request for a waiver or not.

00:16:50,130	Given Greg’s argument, I, as chair, vote not to accept this waiver. And so you would still need to come forward with a site plan. As specified. By me though, right? Because in 7.4.4. Okay. Well, if you read the zoning bylaws pretty much tells you what you need there. Um.

00:17:24,600	Anybody else? Yeah. I think we could grant again, as I said before, we could grant a waiver of who draws the documents. Okay, but the documents have to meet these. Um, specifications. And indeed, we would have to see the septic plan. Okay. So, that being said, we would. You like to. I think you can continue the meeting, right? Yeah.

00:17:52,030	I make a motion to deny the waiver at this point in time, based on the documents submitted. I’ll second that. Discussion. Discussion? No. I agree. Uh, we have a motion on the table. Yeah, you seconded it. All those in favor, vote. Yeah. I. I I. I. I there we go. So you’re gonna have to request a continuance.

00:18:44,270	Okay. Unless you want to talk to us some more. Um, no, I just I was unclear of what I actually needed to draw that, so I’m. Well, but if it’s in 7.4.4 and it’s. Available online and it looks good, it’s kind. Of clear. Look at 7.4 site plan approval and 7.4.4.

00:19:04,670	Also, it might be a good idea to get a copy of that septic plan. Yeah, absolutely. And. Maybe it would also be a good idea to get maybe send something where the, um, Board of Health and see what they, if they have any comment. Um. The best. Would be. To bring us. An approved septic design.

00:19:31,130	Right? Not just the septic design. Yeah. Okay. Since this is a public hearing, there’s a public. Have any comments? And did we pass the sign in sheet around.. Just sign. That is there back there. So the to continue you’re going to have to in writing. For a continuance of this hearing.

00:19:53,630	Okay. I’ve already I’ve already prepared the notice if you’d like to sign it. And may not put your name. Print your name. It could uh, um, there is a slot for this that for next, uh, planning board meeting, which is going to be held on the 15th at Granite Valley School.

00:20:12,670	And this could be scheduled for seven. Yeah. Just your name. Your signature. Thanks. More more dimensions. Randy. And that septic design. Okay. Yep. Yeah. Yep. You can get it online. All right. Thank you. Guys. Did the board make a motion to continue? No no. No no no.

00:20:51,870	Make a motion to continue this hearing from Mister de Metropolis on, uh, the 15th of September at Granite Valley. Second. 7 p.m.. 7 p.m.. All those in favor? Aye. Thank you guys. Thank you. Do you want this. Waiver? Yeah, I’ll take that. Just bring back. Thank. Our next public hearing is 721. It’s for 148 Boston Road West. In accordance with section 7.

00:21:40,030	4 of the Munson Zoning bylaws, the Munson Planning Board will hold a public hearing on Tuesday, August 18th, 2026 at 7:10 p.m. in the Select. Board meeting Room at the Town Administration Building, 110 Main Street. Months of mass to consider an application for site plan approval submitted by Braemar LLC for property located at 148 Boston Road, West, Munson.

00:22:03,400	Map 64, parcel 002. The applicant proposes exterior alterations to an existing commercial building for the purpose of storing and repairing equipment and vehicles associated with this construction business. The property is located within the General Commercial Zoning district.

00:22:22,730	Copy the applications on file with the office of the Town Clerk and the Munson Planning Board Office, and it is available for public review during regular business hours. Advertise 730, 20, 26 and eight six 2026 at the General Register. Case PB 2026-05. We have somebody here. It’s going to present. Hello. Hi. So we’ve purchased a property at 148. Box Road. Um.

00:22:54,470	Did you give your name and. Oh, I’m sorry, my name is Bruce. Tomorrow. Okay. Kelly. The page. Okay. Sorry. All right. Yeah. So, as regarding the 148 Boston. Road property, we. Uh, recently. Purchased the property, and we intend to use the property for the business that we have.

00:23:14,400	It’s called Classic Site Solutions, and it’s basically the same usage, um, that the building was prior storing storage of equipment. Um. Like, over the winter and throughout the summer, we don’t really we won’t really be working out of this space. It’s more for storage than anything else. Um, we’re not doing any alterations to the property.

00:23:40,970	The property was designed and approved by the town. The building will stay the same. We’re not making any improvements or any changes. Uh. To no exterior changes. No exterior changes. Signage. Uh, we might put a sign up, but it’s not a big thing one way or another. It’s not like the public’s going to come there or anything like that. It’s not the lighting.

00:24:00,670	Uh uh, there is exterior lighting. So we’re not we don’t really plan on doing any changes to the exterior lighting. Do you have anything you want to show or. Um, I think this. Yes, this was all submitted.

00:24:19,770	It was all submitted prior to the plot plan that would show the building when it was being built, and it shows the sewer, the water and all that. The board should have that in their packet. If you’d like to look at it. Okay. So you’re before us for a change of use. Is that what it is? Site plan. Approval name I guess. Change the name.

00:24:35,930	There’s no exterior change to the building. No change to the parking. The hours of operation, the location of the dumpster. It’s just a different owner. Okay? And hours of operation and. Noise hours. Of operation granted prior. And we would abide by those. I think it was like 6 a.m. to it. It was all documented prior.

00:25:04,730	And it’s just a story. Equipment. Or equipment. I’m not going to do any crushing or anything that creates noise or dust. No. What was there previously? Uh, it was being up, crushing. So basically he stored equipment there and he did repairs on equipment.

00:25:32,370	We don’t really do repairs on our own equipment. We usually have that done by whoever the whether it’s Caterpillar or Komatsu or whatever they usually do field service. So the. The agenda mentions the, uh, the applicant proposes exterior alteration to the existing commercial building for the purposes of storing and repairing equipment. So you’re not really changing anything. No.

00:26:12,000	So that’s the original building design that you’re looking at right now that you guys had already approved. That’s the building up there now. Yeah. It’s about six years old. Yeah, totally. No. Are you going to park any equipment outside.

00:26:39,800	On the property there? Probably be equipment parked outside on the property. We try to keep most of the equipment behind the building, but the building is pretty well grown up right now. So it’s. You don’t really. The perimeter has grown up with trees and things like that. So you don’t really see into the property right now. And, um. And it’s fenced in there.

00:26:56,930	The adjoining property is what zone is this? What zone is the building on? General commercial and general commercial. Your butters. Also, there’s no residential. I think. I think there’s a power company abuts it. There’s a transformer or something there. And there are houses on the other side.

00:27:21,970	And I believe there’s a like a business across the street. Um, I don’t think so. Carpet or mining or something. And further up the street there’s like a hairdresser, you know, there’s a home up. There. Does it adjoin a residential zone? That’s a question I’m leading into. I don’t believe so. The Butters were all notified, but it seemed like it was a mostly.

00:27:41,300	Railroads on one side, railroad tracks on one side. So what use are we calling this in our chart? Not really changing the use are. Not changing. I don’t know what use it is, but I don’t. General commercial. Yeah. That’s the zone. We changed our zoning like seven years ago for Craig Leveque to allow a similar use. Right.

00:29:05,670	What do we call that? How do we truck? Commercial trucking. Commercial trucking was adopted on, um, the 14th of November, 2016. So commercial trucking. Yeah. Um, but I don’t know that that’s. My show that as special permit. As. Anyway. Sorry. Yeah.

00:29:53,370	I think the conversation, um, with the applicants were to, um, based on the previous approval, which was a site plan approval, which is in your packet for that was in 2013. Um, that it was using the exact same use. Um, so the thought process was.. So it isn’t a change of use. Yeah. It’s it’s a continuing operation, more or less. Yes. It hasn’t been vacated for over two years. Yeah.

00:30:15,870	It has been vacated for two years now. Okay. It’s basically the same usage, just a different name. Gotcha. Different owner. The question would be if there’s no change of use, just change of ownership, do we need.

00:30:50,800	I think the idea here was if there were, you know, as applicant, as presenting, if there were, if the board had, um, as you were pulling into questions, any changes to lighting, any changes to parking? Um, I mean, I think the cleanest would be just to approve the, um, permit based on what is presented to you. Um, as that particular use. And then that starts from 2026. Um, with the site plan approval and presumably.

00:31:17,900	Yeah, I think it’s just the disappointing plan. Yeah. The previously brought forward the plan. And maybe just document that. Indeed, it’s a continuation of a pre-approved use with new ownership. Correct. We wanted a notify the town that is. Under the same conditions. Yeah. And that were previously approved. And was there a copy of the. Uh.

00:31:59,230	Conditional approval in this package of the previous. Leave? So. Neither was the planning board notice of decision for some plan review.. And did that have the conditions of hours of operation? Yes it did. Um. And that’s a part of this package. The conditions of operation shall be stated on the plan.

00:32:25,230	5 a.m. to 9 p.m., Monday through Saturday. Uh. And the other conditions on this part, this initial decision were related to the construction, um, compliance with construction. And that was when 23, 20 1315. Yeah. A lot of the old, uh. Criterion that was pre-built, you know, that was before they built the building. Correct. You know, it’s there. So.

00:33:15,630	You’re not changing any of the conditions? No. There were four conditions. The conditions were construction shall be in strict compliance with the reference plans. The operating hours will be 5 a.m. to 9 p.m. Monday through Saturday. The applicant will submit a copy of the stormwater protection plan. I imagine that got submitted originally. And we.

00:33:42,000	Carol, the fourth condition is failure, the failure to comply condition basically, uh, failure to comply with all conditions stated herein and with all related statutes and other regulatory measures shall be deemed cause to revoke or modify this approval.

00:34:05,500	The approval does not relieve the applicant of any other or any other person of necessity of complying with all the all other applicable federal, state and local statutes, bylaws and regulations. Okay. Any comments from. The audience? Sorry. Any comments from the audience. So I’m just going to say anybody have anything to say? Any questions, comments, concerns. Nothing. Comments from the board.

00:34:38,830	Seems as though it’s a continuation of a three a few approved use in compliance with current zoning. Um, and the proponents said there’ll be no increase in noise dust. No, that won’t be okay. I make a motion. We approve the, uh, continuation of this use to a new owner with the conditions granted previously. I’ll second that. All those in favor? Any discussion? Any discussion. All right.

00:35:14,400	I’m a new chairman, so I haven’t. So, uh, no discussion. All those in favor? I. Of. Motion carries. You’re all set. Good luck. All right. Thank you. Next, we have. 4646 former road. The board will review and discuss the status of the survey. Surety bond associated with the paving project. And then we’ll take.

00:35:57,970	the appropriate action be the necessary. What? Do we have any? Nothing new on that. Um, we the, um, there will be a peer reviewer happens to be in the room. Um, that will be going out on site tomorrow.

00:36:14,230	So presumably at the next board meeting, there will be a report, um, Janelle engineering I don’t know. Um, Mr. Lobo, uh, but that is scheduled for tomorrow. It will be. Going to the site. So other than the fact that we they’re going to take a look at the site tomorrow, we don’t have anything to do on that. No. And the bond remains in effect.

00:36:34,570	Yes, I think we yeah. That has been clarified. Um, the bond remains in effect. We have the proper paperwork after the follow up. Okay. So the next item on the agenda. High street, informal discussion regarding possible zoning amendment, informal discussion requested by Frank Fitzgerald regarding a potential zoning amendment affecting properties on High

00:37:01,630	Street. Somebody want to tell us about that? Just not just luck. It’s only a microphone for them, not. For us. Oh, good. Because it’s a little high for me. But. , uh, thank you for having us. You know, we’re here tonight just to have an informal discussion about potential.

00:37:30,930	Potential zone change, which would involve, uh, increasing the potential density of single family dwellings, um, which had been done in other communities. And addresses, frankly, as we all well know, the single family housing shortage in all of our communities, particularly in in the county in western mass.

00:37:57,070	Uh, Mister Richard, Charles, Richard and myself are the owners of the, uh, property at Zero High Street, which is about 38 acres, I think, and also the property expands downward to the where the spring is that, uh, we’ve offered to give it to the town, but they’ve decided that they don’t would prefer not to have it anyway.

00:38:19,700	Um, so what we’re we’re thinking about is a potential, uh, amendment to the zoning bylaw, which would allow for the development of of single family homes on smaller lots. Um, fundamentally, uh, uh, lots, uh, that, uh, that are located on parcels exceeding 30 acres that would, um, have, uh, instead of the prescribed square footage in the town bylaw.

00:38:50,830	Now, uh, be required to have 10,000ft of, uh, uh, square footage. And that would enable developers, uh, to in today’s world, um, justify the increased cost of infrastructure in, uh, enabling them to develop, uh, a project that would, uh, fundamentally be okay in, uh, view of the fact that pricing for houses in

00:39:24,200	this market are, uh, not as high in relationship to the cost of building them. Uh, cost of building the infrastructure as they are in other markets. So the this proposal for this particular site, if the zone, uh, amendment is approved by the town, would contemplate that, um, parcels with greater than 30 acres would be allowed

00:39:49,530	to have a single family dwellings built on 10,000 square foot lots. Uh, and, um, uh, allow that to happen. Uh, thereby, uh, in incentivizing developers and builders to go ahead and provide, uh, needed housing in the communities, um, that we have.

00:40:15,630	We’re not we don’t have the bylaw in front of us now, but we wanted to come to the board and discuss it and let them know that at some point in time, uh, we would come to you with looking for an affirmation if you think it’s appropriate for the town. So we already have section. 6.4 in our zoning bylaw, which is our open space community.

00:40:33,230	Yeah. Uh, but that isn’t really the same thing you’re talking. No, no. So you’re proposing a an additional zoning, a zoning bylaw? Yeah. It would would, wouldn’t be necessary. We looked at it. That really wouldn’t cover it in order to really justify this.

00:40:55,200	This would be 10,000 square foot lots and, uh, um, based in the town could decide. But fundamentally in other towns. And they’ve done it where they’ve required a certain number of acres in this particular situation, we would say on properties that have 30 acres or more, you could develop a, uh, a project that would include, uh, single family dwellings only, um,

00:41:18,830	with, with the lots that would have, uh, 10,000ft. So you change your setbacks and your frontages. slightly on that. Yeah. Yeah. We I think we’ve submitted done some preliminary plans that show that the setbacks are. Yeah. Rough concept. Yeah. Right. Gotcha. Yeah. Okay. Um.

00:41:40,030	So basically the only change you’re looking at is the size of the lot and, and the, the setbacks will be changed. Yeah. Slightly to match the locks. Yeah. Correct. This is Jeff LeBeau, our engineer. Okay. Yeah. And. Uh. But again, we’re not in any hurry. We’re not looking for a vote.

00:41:58,070	We want to make sure that we’re not trying to force something on the town that doesn’t want. But we think that, uh, given the substantial need for additional housing in this market, uh, this would be a good alternative. Uh, prescribing single family homes only, uh, it would attract families.

00:42:19,670	And, uh, um, would, uh, I’m not sure where the market would be for the houses, but they would be because of that, because of the infrastructure savings by virtue of the smaller lots. I think the pricing for the houses would be more amenable to people moving in and bringing their families. Here. And this would be in village residential zones only. Having. Water city, municipal water.

00:42:38,630	Yeah. yeah, yeah. And the particular parts that we have, we’d probably have to put a silo up there to make it work to have the city water, but we’re doing. It.. And of course, you’d still be required to meet the existing subdivision regulations. Yes. Uh, with regards to the the grade of the streets. Right.

00:42:58,570	The dead end, the maximum dead end and all of the other regulations. I think we preliminarily submitted a plan that, uh, showed, uh, some I think it was we tried. To meet, um, um, Jeff LeBeau with Jane Austen engineering. Um, we. Tried to, uh, minimize with with Franks and Charlie’s proposal. Proposal or idea.

00:43:21,130	What we try to do is, um, meet all the other criteria as far as the 757 or. So on that end. , landfill. Dead end length on the max grade. So there would be 1 or 2 waivers that would probably still have to apply because of the challenges of this, this particular law.

00:43:40,030	Um, but, you know, obviously, what Frank is talking about would apply to any other parcels that met those certain criteria as well. Um, but it’s mostly dimensional. Um, some dimensional changes.

00:44:06,700	So the 20,000 to the 10,000 frontages from 100, I think, or 125 to, uh, 75, but it’s more I think we’re more presenting the idea versus the specifics this evening. Correct? Correct. Right. And have you considered the effect that, uh, statue driven ADUs allowed by right and residential zone? So the potential would be for two buildings on each of these lots? That’s we’ve talked to, talked about it, but we could in fact, I think as part of the program restrict that.

00:44:29,900	I don’t know if you could do a deed restriction well and violate the statute. That sounds like a slippery. Slope. It could be, could be. But, uh, I think at the same time, at the same time, there’s the legislation that we all know that’s brewing now, which is, uh, I think on the for creating

00:44:50,500	smaller lots by, by law. But I think we could do this. You could, you could have a bylaw that maybe specified this type of thing requiring 10,000 square foot lots. Uh, and, uh, you’re right. You probably could not, I don’t think. Local zoning can circumvent statute in the intent of the, uh. No.

00:45:11,530	But the new fair housing laws. Yeah, but. That’s that’s a that’s up for a referendum. I think. And, uh, and there’s another movement in the legislature now with respect to duplexes. And I think you could have a property, uh, that with the restriction that you can’t build a duplex on it. You could do that.

00:45:34,100	What we’re talking about here is single. We think that there’s a demand for a single family homes on smaller lots. That could be, uh, the pricing could be justified based upon the fact that you could. Builders and developers could put more houses into a smaller area.

00:45:56,900	Well, there’s no doubt that there’s a demand, a pretty heavy demand for housing at an affordable price. Yeah. So this would this, this type of proposal would wind up before the town for an amendment to the zoning bylaw. There’s not anything we could do for special permits or anything like that.

00:46:18,630	So what would be required, of course, would be somebody to generate a proposed bylaw change. Right. Which would be a zone change, probably a change to our subdivision control. Right, right. Uh. Rural residents or not? Rural resident. Right. Yeah. Right. Yeah. And, uh. So someone would generate that, the planning board would hold a public hearing on it. And we.

00:46:43,400	Afterwards, the planning board would make a recommendation, a town meeting vote. Exactly. And then it would require two thirds of vote. Right. Correct. Oh, yeah. But a two thirds vote at town meeting. Right. That we’re here tonight just to bring it to your attention that it’s coming. Yeah.

00:47:01,530	And hopefully you, uh, you’re aware of it ahead of time and, uh, we would we would be if we would go forward, would be coming to the planning board looking for their endorsement before the town meeting. Does anybody else on the board have any questions for the.

00:47:19,400	Yet? Not opposed to the idea, but I think we have a lot to talk about for sure. Yeah, it’s hard to kind of without seeing the actual bylaw. Right, right. You could see the bylaw. And I think we submitted Jeff prepared some hands that show. Yeah. Look at the map. If you look at the plan, there is a proposed dimensional amendment.

00:47:36,130	Yeah, a lot of that on the lower of the plans. You guys have the lower left. It’s for consideration. Dimensional requirements for discussion purposes for lots larger than 30 acres. So basically it’d be a modified zoning text amendment change for the residential village zone for those meeting those criteria.

00:47:56,300	And then we propose some ideas for dimensional, uh, uh, dimensions and what coverages down the. Line, the 38 year requirement. And not just residential village. We’ve seen it in other we’ve looked at other towns and cities, and they seem to think that, uh, um, it works better and more conducive to better development if it’s a larger

00:48:26,700	parcel. And that restricts, restricts, uh, smaller houses where they shouldn’t be. And. It’s more of a planned kind of community planned development. , I get it. To me. To me, it cuts out the little guy. Yeah, I’d say acres. And if it is doable to split it up.

00:48:49,300	We we put 30 acres. It could be the bylaw could say whatever you want. The ones we’ve seen have been up to 40 acres. Mm. I’d be curious to see how the accessory dwelling unit statute. That’s that’s a good question, you. Know, gets into this and. Yeah. Right. And how, um.

00:49:12,330	I think you’re right. You can’t restrict them. Could we control that with parking. Site plan. Approval and parking? I mean, it’s tight, 10,000ft of small. Building.

00:49:31,300	I think you guys got a lot of work to do to to make sure that whatever you propose, if indeed the town is behind it, that that the attorney general would approve it. Yeah. Yeah. Karen, I did a question. Thank you. Karen Turgeon, 11, Longview. Just a suggestion that I think it’s a an idea to get things moving because I know Maura Healy’s been talking about even putting lots by right at 5000ft.

00:50:02,700	So, yeah, this isn’t bad. Um, but. And I know down the road will be the discussions about that particular site. Now, it would be just the zoning you’re talking about.

00:50:23,070	What I’d love to see also, because if we’re talking about changing not only this parcel, but any parcel in town that has 30 acres or more to be able to do this, because they can fit 65 houses on that particular lot, is what that is. And I’m thinking about the impact. Although we do need new homes, I’m just wondering if it would be great to have something in a bylaw to have some open space areas as well.

00:50:41,230	So we’re not just putting all the houses on the entire lot to be able to have open space in some way. So that’s all I wanted to throw out. It would be really nice to to do that, rather than having every single piece, because this one’s going to be limited.

00:50:59,930	It’s different for this one because they have a lot of wetlands, so there are a lot of open space kind of areas because they have to. But we I really think the town also needs to think about looking forward at another lot that has maybe a big open field. And you’re doing this without any open space in that field.

00:51:19,500	They could put like probably 100 houses. You’re thinking about shoehorning. Lots, you know. So so I’m just thinking maybe we could do something to be a little creative with allowing for some open space. That’s all. That’s great. Yeah, yeah. Thank you. Does anybody else have any questions? Anything else? That’s it. We’re at. So this would be done by a citizen petition.

00:51:48,270	By your petition you would petition. What would the mechanics be? Go to the select board. Yeah. Select board. Uh, town clerk. That’s it. You know, ensure that it meets. We’re here out of we’re here out of courtesy. Just when you would generate the bylaw yourself. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:52:07,830	And then the planning board’s only role here would be for the zoning change for the zoning. Certainly the input of the planning board as we’re getting to. And that’s why we’re here tonight. Get your input to see the input from the neighbors, to see that it works for the town. And we’re in no way we’re no way looking to foist anything on the town that they don’t want.

00:52:24,400	Understood. Bear in mind, once you produce your bylaw, the planning board can’t can’t change it. You would have. to make any change, right? And then it would be presented at town meeting after. After our board’s vote. Yeah. Okay. Appreciate your time. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. An item. Number. Of points.

00:52:57,030	Discussion and recommendations regarding the appointment of a planning board member to serve on the Municipal financial sustainability task. What is that? I don’t know how. What is. This again? What are we talking about here? Sounds like interest.

00:53:25,400	So I think my understanding based on this particular memo was, um, one from the select board and town administrator to identify a member of the planning board to participate in a discussion regarding, um, reducing expenditures, looking at regionalization, consolidation of departments or functions, operational restructuring and service adjustments, while also researching lawful opportunities to strengthen recurring revenues and encourage appropriate property development. So I think it’s a matter of understanding the fiscal nature of the town.

00:53:58,770	And I think a lot of communities are actually talking about this. I was at another planning board meeting, I think, last week, and they have a revenue committee, and we’re talking to the planning board regarding things related to possible zoning changes.

00:54:14,530	Um, you know, to entice development in certain parts of town or, you know, where it makes sense. Um, so I think the idea here is that a member of the planning board, in addition to the other, um, committee members that are identified in this memo, um, would, you know, participate in the conversation that’s held outside of a

00:54:33,230	planning board meeting, um, to talk about these particulars? I would think. Um, so I think that’s the idea is, um. They’re not looking to cut our pay, are they? Yeah.

00:54:55,100	No, but I think, you know, I think, uh, as, um, you know, the planners for the town, right? The, the idea is that there might be some considerations for zoning changes. There might be some considerations for, um, you know, um, and, and I think, um, Penny and I have been looking at, um, fee, the fees, the fee schedule. So that might be coming to the board for this kind of looking at some of those various opportunities.

00:55:15,930	Um, but the idea is to, to participate in this municipal task force that in includes a member of the planning board, in addition to other members of town government to participate in this conversation. One citizen at. Large. Anybody be interested in serving on that board? I’ll do. Um, I’m actually doing it as a resident. No. Right.

00:55:39,530	Oh, there you go. You have two members. Fantastic. Very good. Thank you. So I don’t know if you would like to make a motion. I think a motion should be. Made. Yeah. Um. I would like to. Make a motion. Uh, Bobby, our board representative. I’ll second that. All those in favor? Discussion, discussion.

00:56:13,830	Sorry. No. All those in favor? Aye. Carries. Thanks, Bob. Now we have DNR plans. Aldergrove. That’s you? My name is Jane Mumford. Uh, our family has. a parcel that is currently in a forestry plan under chapter 61. And we’re looking to remove 2.77 acres of that.

00:57:10,770	And our it’s defined as log two. And our plan is to, um, build a very small 650 square foot, one bedroom, one bath home on that lot. So lot two is coming out of the original John G. L John L Mumford. Correct. John Hall, Mumford. Trustees. Correct. Knock correct. Got 200ft of frontage.

00:57:53,000	You got 121,000ft on the new lot. So it meets frontage and area requirements. And there’s only one that is in rural residential in that area, correct? Yeah. You Shows. 185ft from the property. Proposed property. That’s correct. That’s what my. Parents are. Last night. Is that a pretty flat lot? It is. It is. I’m not familiar with it.

00:59:27,200	Yeah. Particularly the portion that we’re going to. have cleared. Where. We’re going. To have the house. Yeah. There’s no wetlands on the lot. There are. Not. Looks good to me. Looks good to me. Look at the mylar and the signing kit. Stamping all these can. I’m guessing it should be for paper copies that are mylar. There.

01:00:14,130	Where would you typically stamp? That. We normally stamp it up here. You know something? We’ve never used it. We usually just find a open space rather than on. The. It’s fine, but that’s the paper. The one that needs to be right side. You have to be perfect. These are free. These. Open. Stamp.

01:00:50,070	So what we’re looking at here. This. One. Doesn’t it? Real residential zone is. Does anybody ever get you a copy of. No. So you need one of these? Yeah, that’s not a what? But let me show you. You gotta sign the bottom. He’s stamping it. Yeah. You only need one signature on an A&R.

01:01:14,730	It doesn’t matter, but, uh, so we have a table here. Yeah. I think if you sign. just a mylar, the my mylar. Yeah. Here. Okay. Any permitted use, you need to have 60,000ft of. Any 200ft. So they have 200.12ft and by like 112,000ft. Seems like I would have. So that’s why Craig was. Well. Yeah. It doesn’t happen. Okay, that.

01:01:44,930	Makes sense. But I’m going to, uh. I’ll email Kenny, because you definitely need a copy of the zoning bylaw. We should probably go. I think Kenny is finishing up the update. Yeah, because there’s so many updates. Sign this to you. Have these four copies. Zoning. So. Let’s finish stamp. No, I shouldn’t be the only one that.

01:02:23,930	Is there any. updated zoning act and what’s the other one? Kevin. Zoning act is, uh, chapter 48, and then we have an subdivision like regulations 4180. Um, as far as up to date, I mean, so I actually just placed an order for myself. These are all.

01:02:47,470	Yeah, those are all, um, from the state House. Because you have to order from the state House. Um, so I will have. Them.. I can help. Them out. I think why don’t we just get a copy for all of us? Individual copies, right? Yeah, yeah, because minor. I got original. Exactly. Yeah. And I think they include all of the amendments to 2025.

01:03:10,370	Perfect. Thanks. Six. Okay, so Scott gets to the signing and then we’re going to talk about hospital row. Am I. Done. To give you the mylar. We’re going to give you you’re almost done. Until I get one of those. Do I walk out of here with something? I’m gonna walk out of here with me. Or you.

01:03:28,030	Walk out with. Something. Keep some. Paper copies. You want to be careful of mylar and still be wet? Gotcha. Smudge it all over the place. It’s not going to be acceptable to. Appreciate it. That’s great. Coming your way. Not just. I hate. Road plans. Oh, yeah. I literally. I love that one by seven. I hate. Road plans.

01:04:33,230	Yeah. Great. All right. Thank you for your time. Thank you. Good night. On safe. Hello. The next thing. Excuse me, is a, uh, another an hour. I just missed and. Are there. 08801. Huh? Yeah. Good evening. Uh, can you see this gentleman? No, sir. The bane of my existence. Try dealing with role play setting. Not. You know.

01:05:34,830	Yeah. Unlimited options. Oh. So this is an interesting one. This is an interesting one. Um, Alex, bag is a fine bond. Uh, Sean O’Donnell with West Mouse development, as it were. We’re actually on behalf of the town of Munson this evening. Uh, for this and are, um, this is up at the state hospital campus.

01:06:00,030	Um, this is one of the parcels of land that was DXM is now owned by West Mass Development. And, uh, the subject of this evening is the, uh, what’s called State Hospital Road, which is the current east west cut through that has the open bridge on it. Uh, that’s a piece of private land.

01:06:18,370	So basically, when the state was in control of the property, the state granted the town of Munson public passage over that that road that was really a campus driveway. It really is a campus driveway. Um, and that was all after the Hospital Road bridge closed.

01:06:35,500	So, um, the intent of what we’re trying to do is to parcel off where that existing road is. Um, obviously, that State Hospital Road connects to Macomb Burn to Upper Palmer both public ways.

01:06:53,700	Um, and then just to, like, provide a little more background, there’s a mass works grant that the town of Munson’s and receipt of um and a portion of that money is going towards replacement of the bridge on State Hospital Road. So not not the town bridge. That’s a separate matter. Uh, the money was earmarked for that state hospital road bridge and then also improvements to that road. Um. And that location is on the strip we’re talking about tonight.

01:07:10,630	That. Yes, that road is on this strip. So this is the Brookside building. The the winged shield building up there on Upper Palmer. The cross-shaped building is Simons. And the bridge is where? Right about here. Okay. Right about here. So, um.

01:07:30,770	So we’re we’re in front of you for an A and are to create the tract of land. We are not in front of you asking for approval of the road or creation of the public way. That’s a separate matter. Um, the idea here being this is an existing paved way. The public is using it.

01:07:45,900	Um, and the idea is that road acceptance at a future town meeting after the road has been upgraded to town standard, is where we would address the actual public right of way conversion issue. So all we’re looking to do is effectively remove this piece of property from the master parcel, leaving two, uh, building lots, large building lots, subject to future subdivision, future site plan.

01:08:06,600	You know, their own approval process in front of this board. Um, as appropriate for whatever’s approved there in the future. It breaks out that roadway strip. However, that’s under ownership of western mass development now. And after this is signed, it’ll still be under ownership of West Mass Development.

01:08:25,170	But they’ll have the ability at that point to transfer that easily to the town is at the intent. That’s the intent. And um, as. That would require town meeting vote to accept this. Yes, sir. Um, and the tract of land you’re seeing is it’s not a coincidence.

01:08:42,630	It’s exactly the same as the piece of property that was conveyed as a construction easement via town meeting. Uh, a few months back. So obviously, the intent is that they’re going to construct the improvements West Marsh had to grant the town of easement, and the town had to accept that easement to expend the gas works dollars to make the improvements. So that’s all in the works.

01:08:59,670	And this is just another step to kind of establish that parcel, simplify the future process of the transfer. So just out of curiosity, not that it matters for this, the all the road improvements would be done by western mass development, including using the $5 million grant.

01:09:21,670	They would do all of this, make it up to a subdivision regulations and then put it to town meeting vote to to be accepted as a town way. That is the plan. Yes. And you’ve already spoken with the Selectboard. The highway department. I defer to Shannon on. This clarification so. that if I. As a Palmer. Resident, I wasn’t sure if I was welcome. Well, barely.

01:09:41,600	What’s your name? And yeah, Sean O’Donnell. Westminster alderman. Okay. Um, so the town of Monson was actually the applicant for the Master Works grant. So they were in receipt of the 5 million. So technically, this is a public works project being done by the town of Monson on West mass development property. But through the construction easement over the land.

01:10:00,870	So Westminster is not in receipt of the the funds. So the town of Munson applied for and received the grant, but the town of Monson is is not going to do any of the construction. Uh, it would all be done by town of Monson hiring the contractors to to do the work. Right. Hey.

01:10:18,530	All you own while you own the land. Correct. And that’s all been sort of worked out with the Select board and approved. Yes. So it’s a curiosity. Yeah. So, um, so the easement was approved by town meeting or the land in which the construction easement would, um, would be covering, but then the actual easement language

01:10:37,670	was all passed last week in front of the Selectboard on the 11th. So that just needs to be signed and recorded with the register. So it’s pretty clear cut out of the planning board’s role here. I mean, we’re just rubber stamping and approval not required, right? Stamp. And that’s and the remaining land so that it’ll be horseshoe.

01:10:58,300	It’ll be all all connected. The remaining land. Uh, so Mighty Cumber, which runs north south, is already a public way. So it’s really just bridging the two existing public ways. There’s there’s two lots created or bisect in that lot. So there’s a lot, um, that’s bound by Upper Palmer.

01:11:15,400	This plan creates two lots. I only see one. The roadway. I see three, but three, the remaining land. Well. You got remaining land on there. Yeah. And the remaining land is all under the same book and page. It is. It is. So how are we creating more? Lots out of that.

01:11:34,170	It’s interesting how it’s presented now. Already I’ve wondered that myself. So it’s 881. But you do have make Homer that already bisects. Bisect. Bisects the entire parcel. Yeah, yeah. So that’s unusual already. Oh, that was a good question. Yeah. That I bumbled the answer to. And I’m glad Sean was here. For. Okay. Good team.

01:11:53,530	And make number as a town way. Yes. And it’s maintained as a town way. Now. It is. Up to a certain point. Well the point the the portion we’re looking at.

01:12:16,500	And then while this road construction goes on, what access will there be to McCumber road from Upper Palmer Road? So there actually there isn’t access right now because of the ongoing demolition work and the bridge constructed. So it’s closed. Right now. It is closed right now. So go out there and. Uh. We’re there. To be a fire or something like that. Um, on. The road. Side would have to access from 32. and yeah, Hospital Road.

01:12:36,930	And even though it’s close to as it cut through, it’s still open for public safety. So fire trucks, everybody can. Still access. Yep. For now. Yeah. Well our job is pretty easy on this one. Yeah I think. So. What do you. Say there, Ken. Yeah.

01:13:02,070	I mean, I think, um, as the, uh, West mass, you know, we, we ended up going out on site a couple weeks ago to describe this particular process. I think codifying as through the A&R process and as, um, the engineering team, um, presented, this will go to town meetings.

01:13:22,500	So there is a process for the planning board to ensure that it meets those particular, um, standards for subdivision regulations. As Craig mentioned. So that will come later on. But this is yeah, just codifying that piece. Okay.

01:13:47,430	And again, this has nothing to do with the planning board, but I’m assuming they’ll have independent inspectors to inspect the road construction, assuming that you’re going to want it to meet to be, uh, approval as a public way. Absolutely. And the bridge has already been submitted to MassDOT for chapter 85 approval. What time frame was.. Our hope is that we would be presenting this to town meeting by May of 2028. Full construction up to town standard. Good. Well, I for one remember.

01:14:10,970	Don’t don’t see a problem with this. And I wonder. About. What everybody else thinks. If a motion is required, I make a motion. We approve the A and our plan is submitted. A second in motion discussion. All those in favor? Aye. Thank you very much. Appreciate it. No. More. Yep. Those minutes.

01:14:48,930	I’m sure everybody remembers what happened last year. I was on top this time. Uh. On the box steel trap. Yeah, well. Might as well start. with what I’ve got. And I flip everything around. Yeah. Right. Yeah. This one does not have. a spot for me to sign. So. There.

01:15:24,270	You can hear what what you’re saying. It does happen. Yeah. You’re good at your job. That’s just amazing. Isn’t everything. The other Rs. I signed on this one has nowhere to sign or just pick anywhere. Okay, spot. That’ll take me. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you that. We’ll see you guys.

01:15:52,600	Sean, do you want to the mylar? Oh, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Well. Now you’re. Making me go to. The bottom. So you can leave. The home and have dinner. Next time. So I’ll be here till midnight. Sun. Hey, I’m ten minutes away. He’s about. 30. Maybe more. Gotta post. It to put over. Yeah. Excuse me. So. The signing now is. Then. We’ll talk.

01:16:59,800	About these minutes. And talk about. Okay. Well. We also have. On the are not on the agenda but something to do is we have minutes here for July 29th, 2024. Planning board. And that was the meeting where we discussed, uh, ground mounted solar photovoltaic installations, battery energy. Systems. Stormwater management and public hearing schedule.

01:17:39,000	So I would like to make a motion if we’ve all read these, that we accept these minutes. Finally, as rule, I’ll second that discussion. All those in favor? Aye. Motion carries. What else do you have? Anything else? Last month to month. Sorry. Um. Last month. Minutes. Last month. Minute. I don’t think I’ve seen those great about it.

01:18:12,670	That’s interesting. They were emailed out. I don’t know. Last year. Yeah. Last year. Which one. Do you have? Um. Oh, what can I June 16th. I am two. Have you haven’t. Seen one? Is this the right date? Uh. Or is this supposed to be July? I think it’s supposed to be July. This is supposed to be last meetings.

01:18:53,370	Yeah, because this is at the school. Yeah. And you and you and you took the motions for the new reorganization of the board that was allowed. Yeah. So? So the date is wrong on here. So the date is incorrect. Right? What’s going on with the minutes? Supposed to be July 14th. Uh, 21st, 21st, 21st. Um.

01:19:35,170	Okay, so. On page two, uh, the fire chief is not Gasperini. It’s Brian Harris. The date should be July 21st. On that. You guys didn’t get a copy of this? I have a copy here. Did I get it in my. Penny? Very well. Oh, I got it online. I didn’t. Oh. I see. This is the version.

01:20:30,070	So do you want to vote on this or do you guys want to have a chance to review it. Just give me a second. I’ll look out here. Somebody can borrow mine. Oh, perfect. Yeah. Looks like together. Oh. Never mind. Do you have a copy? Or that mine can actually. Just bullet points.

01:22:34,330	Initiatives. I mean, let’s see what that looks like, because that’s where we’re not. No, no. I have. Hold on. Sure. Why not? Okay. Yeah. I mean, that’s going to be. Well, we’re waiting for everybody to read the minutes. Does anybody in the audience want to discuss anything? Just. Performance of the new chair. There you go.

01:23:17,530	I got it on the last one. This question. Okay. Thanks, Scott. Thank you. Yep. Oh. Ken, what’s going on with the, um, cell tower proposal? Um, as far as I know, they continued to see this month. Not this month.

01:24:02,370	Yeah, to for the CBA because it had a CBA hearing right after the planning boards. Um, and they continued to this this month’s CBA meeting, but I’m not quite sure what has transpired since then. We wait until next month. Yeah. And I don’t know if there was an official filing yet either with the Conservation Commission, because obviously that was a requirement.

01:24:22,130	So I would like to make a motion that we accept the minutes of with the two changes of the date of July 21st and the change of the fire chief to Brian Harris, rather than Casper, any other than that as written on a second night discussion. All those in favor? Aye. Um. What else. Do, um.

01:24:54,600	There’s now nothing in your correspondence folder. Um, but yeah, I think as there was just a brief mention, um, regarding your next planning board meeting, which is scheduled for September 15th, um, at Granite Valley School, 7 p.m.

01:25:18,130	you have the continued um, Adu permit, and then 705 is the continued, um, cell tower permit. So that’s scheduled for September 15th. Um, so for the board members that were not there, um, as if you review the, um, recording from the meeting, you should be able to vote or, um, would be part of that particular vote because of Mullen’s rule. So, yeah.

01:25:44,900	So just make sure that that happens. Um, prior to that. Meeting, it was a special permit. And it is special permit. So it does require four votes. And I will recuse myself. So it’s important if you guys aren’t going to be there. Yes and yes, please. Um, yeah.

01:26:06,330	Because then we will have to address an absence and the possibility of vote. Um, with that. But I think we’ll keep everyone apprised of what happens for the CVA hearing. Uh, in addition to any sort of changes that might be presented in that meeting. So in a case like that, Chris, what had happened is the chair would appoint you would, uh, voting member. Um. Okay.

01:26:32,730	But I have no other. Oh, the town did not receive. So if you recall, um, the town put together grant application to a, um, to, um, revise and update the months and subdivision regulations. There was no grant has been granted. The town did not get that grant.

01:26:53,800	Award? Um, for that work. Um, that there is a grant application, if you recall, um, for a, uh, update to the master plan, and we’re still waiting for that award. Um, notice, but for the subdivision regs, um. I wonder why that was.

01:27:14,900	I think just, I think a matter of the applicants and what was asked. Um, I think though, for and, you know, I can talk to the, to the board about this as we get closer. There’s other ways to fund that type of work. And so we can definitely. And that would have been funded by the state. Yes. Through the eco one stop, which is through the executive office.

01:27:33,000	Of Community Development. You know, this this particular one was through Energy and Environmental affairs or Environmental and Energy affairs. They have a planning assistance grant, um, which does land use type work. And so that would have been it is a typical like awarded project. But Munson did not get it. To know. Yeah.

01:27:56,470	Well we can probably get another 50 years out of them by that. But we have no other business. I would like to make a motion that we adjourn the meeting for tonight at 828. I second that. All those in favor? All right.